Wednesday 25 June 2014

Nothing But The Tooth

So if - and more reasonably when - Luis Suarez is found guilty of biting an opponent for the third time in his professional career, what might be the best way to proceed for FIFA? (Given FIFA's recent track record the idea that it should have any sort of moral authority is laughable, but we'll gloss over that shall we? Unless of course we can leave Luis and Sepp in a locked room for 48 hours and hang - or enjoy - the consequences.)


But seriously what are the options?


1. Remove Suarez's teeth entirely.


2. Make Suarez wear one of those face guards you give to dangerous dogs - and if you want him to keep playing that's not as dumb as it seems. Humiliating, yes but stupid? No.


3. Insist that opposing centre-halves wear proper bite-proof protection. Although that argument works a bit like the one that says that girls in mini-skirts are just asking for it. Perhaps the Uruguayans might make that point. I mean,  if these svelte-shouldered Italians run around in their slinky blue tops, just begging to be nibbled, it's not Luis's fault, is it?
4. Give him a guest role on the UK tour of Dennis the Menace.


5. Ban him for at least a year and tell him to go and get serious psychological help. Small children often go through a biting phase but as far as I can tell they get over it by three years of age - the only exceptions being Luis Suarez and Hannibal Lecter and one of those is fictional. (It's Lecter by the way, Suarez does actually exist.)


Whatever happens, it'd be nice if close colleagues, enchanted by his footballing brilliance, could actually get their fingers out of their arses and condemn the toothy twat when he's done something like this. Or is pure talent enough to permit you to get away with anything?


If I were Sepp Blatter, and let's face it with enough money, brass neck and indifference to human suffering we all could be, I'd be banning the bloke for life. He's had so much support with his problems and quite simply the man's a serial offender. If he were a dog, he would be put down by now. The fact that he's a human being might make us a pity him a little as he's clearly a bit bonkers and that's not his fault. But you can't let him carry on doing this.


So come on FIFA. Make a stand. This man needs forcibly retiring before he eats someone.


Mind you, I can't help secretly wishing he'd been close enough to bite Phil Jagielka with five minutes to go against England. Which brings us on to the toothless final showing against an uninterested Costa Rica. Costa Fiver as I called them before the tournament started. What a chump I look now.


But it's a tad unfair to belittle that goalless draw. You can blather on all you like about getting back a bit of pride but those players were already going home so there was nowt to play for. If I'd made eleven employees redundant I'd hardly expect them to put in a proper shift on their last day at work.


Much is being made of England's apparent pool of young talent but that very youthfulness seems to have recently retired pros trembling like leaves for the future of the national game. I'm not quite sure why we need the likes of Gerrard and Lampard to hang around being not quite as good as they once were if they simultaneously keep aspiring players out of the team.


I hope they both, with gratitude for their long-standing but ultimately fruitless efforts, retire gracefully. If the next generation are to thrive they don't need to be dependent on tidy old pros, unless they stick around to offer a bit of wise counsel every now and then.

The flaws in the England team are not exactly difficult to identify. The defence is hogwash. Johnson couldn't protect stop a bath from overflowing and Jagielka and Baines are not quite up to it even if the formation didn't help them. Gerrard and Henderson are not great protectors of a back four - indeed the one player who should've been on the plane (and this is ironic since I've lambasted him in the past) was Michael Carrick, who is at least used to defending in that position.


Upfront, Sturridge isn't the finished finisher either and had he been we might well be sitting at home talking up our teams chances of turning over Colombia, or even Greece. But he's worth persisting with in the absence of others.


What I still insist was good to see was a lot of intelligent running off the ball and interchanging of position by England's front four, regardless of the personnel. The final ball was lacking - which is pretty crucial I admit - but that will improve if and only if these players keep getting picked.


Personally I don't think England were 'humiliated' in this tournament. They did about as well as we thought they would when they got there. This England team is average but can get better.


Here's a team to start the next game:
Hart, Flanagan, Cahill, Stones, Shaw, Carrick, Wilshere, Barkley, Sterling, Sturridge, Rooney. (Lallana or Oxlade-Chamberlain could start happily enough in that midfield too. Jones might yet come through if only bleedin' Man U would play him at centre-back!)


Obviously you'd have to insist on little refinements within that line-up. Wilshere only plays if he stops falling over. Sturridge can't miss three sitters and expect to retain his place. None of them get to do shoddy TV ads when they've done nowt to earn the right. And we give a naïve back four the right to fail every now and then, given that the more experienced one was pants anyhow. And give Ross Barkley a chance, too.


Indeed the likes of Sterling and Barkley wouldn't even have made this tournament were it not for Martinez and Rodgers's willingness to give youth its head. Surely they have to be retained, encouraged and forgiven before they can really improve our chances.


Which is the opposite of what we should do with Suarez. To the kennels with him!! Bad dog, BAD DOG!!!



89 comments:

  1. Suarez is looking forward to playing Germany as he fancies a nice shoulder of Lahm.

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    1. Thanks for nicking my joke from the comments at the end of the last blog!

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  2. Anononononon.

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  3. It seems more than 100 people had a wager on Suarez biting.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28016737?ocid=socialflow_twitter

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  4. After every tournament we seem to go through the same what ifs and should haves.We did ok,not great,but not bad.We lost to teams ranked higher than us in FIFA's world rankings (not the most reliable source I know,but there you go).

    I'm afraid it's time for me to wheel out my response.

    Until coaching in this country improves rapidly at youth level,we won't go anywhere.

    It's no good blaming foreign imports into the PL,as all managers are hired and fired on results for their team, plus British players are seriously overvalued in the transfer market.

    It might take 10 years,we might lose to Estonia,we might not qualify for a tournament or two,but until the structure is sound the players won't be good enough.

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  5. And finally....

    to stop a puppy biting at skirting boards etc etc you use pepper or mustard.

    Maybe all Uruguay's opponents should smear themselves in Coleman's (not Seamus)

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  6. good stuff Robbo, #5 for me. No use blaming the ones we have in the team that just aren't good enough, they know how we all feel, they're aware of the question marks the masses has placed next to their names, we are worfully short of top notch English talent and they must be the best we've got. Thanks for showing up. We're fucked for the forseeable.

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  7. Nice, Robbo - it's interesting to see and hear all the England-bashing by people who didn't expect them to get out of the group in the first place. It's almost as if they expected England to win all three games, yet somehow not advance. As for youth development, I think the USA model - have some servicemen mingle with some Fräuleins and let the Germans train 'em up!

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    1. Can I volunteer for that mingling with the frauleins gig?

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  8. Great Blog, Robbo but will FIFA bite the bullet? (Sorry) Their ability to weasel out of making a decision is a great concern. Under point 5. I think you omitted Dracula (only available for night matches, no good on crosses etc. etc.) although even I think a stake throught the heart (assuming he has one) is going a bit far for Mr. Suarez. Silver Bullet in the right place might do the trick though.

    Spider

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  9. Robbo. . Good work. FIFA has the option of doing nothing. Its attractive. England performed to expectations.

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  10. Another aspect to all this is how will Liverpool react? If they have the moral backbone they're always referred to as having, they have to take some independent action against their star player. A difficult one for the club, who without Suarez' goals last season would have struggled to make the top four, for sure.
    Cards on the table - I'm an Everton fan, but hard as it is, I'll leave the grinding axes in the shed. Logically, if Pool do nowt, then they will benefit from not having Suarez making long overseas trips to play for his country, assuming FIFA actually ban him, and that can't be right.
    At the very least Pool should instigate their own ban while insisting he gets psychological help. if he went to a shrink last time, then the only option is to sell. If they do decide to sell him it now makes me wonder who would buy him, and for how much?
    I remember the debate when he last used his protruding biters on human flesh, that a lot of managers (Moyes included) would have got rid, but probably on orders from upstairs, Brenda gave Suarez another chance. I can't see any moral justification for the dangerous loon being given yet another, can you?

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  11. Just put him down, like you would a rabid dog.

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  12. Uruguay are in such denial about this, they sound like Vicky Pollard off Little Britain.

    Meanwhile, the Hondurans play so rough, they go about 'de Jong'-ing each other. OOH, and as I type this, a Honduran just Stevie G'd and the Swiss have scored again.

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  13. I still don't see what the big deal about biting is. Of course it is nasty and has no place on the football field but it's hardly likely to cause any proper injury. Compare that with Keane's assault on Haaland. Now that's the type of thing that should get a proper ban.

    There appears to be a mandatory 7 game (international?) ban for spitting. I reckon the same thing should apply with maybe a bit extra for repeat offending.

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    1. I don't see why you don't see what the big deal is. It is just something that, as an adult, you don't do. It is unlikely to kill anyone, or break anyone's leg, but he's supposed to be a professional footballer, idol to millions, and the Premier League's finest footballer. And biting people, apart from being quite mad, is not what you're supposed to at work.

      I'm going to assume you're a Liverpool fan, in fact I even read your comment with a scouse accent in my mind, because no-one apart from Liverpool fans thinks this is no big deal.

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    2. People have short memories - remember the uproar when Tyson (another nutter) bit Holyfield's ear off - and that in a sport where you are meant to hurt your opponent?!

      Spider

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    3. Bites can get infected and it's possible to catch something nasty off them.

      (I am a Liverpool fan and I do think this is a big deal. The sooner he's gone, the better.)

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    4. Fat Bob, you cannot be serious? Maybe you are and other people feel the way you do too, that would explain alot about how fucked up it's all become. Thanks for the enlightenment.

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    5. Well, surely it's obvious that Chiellini attacked Suarez' tegs with his shoulder and then had the temerity to elbow the innocent god-like creature in the face?
      That's what Fat Bob and the more deluded parts of Liverpool's support really want to say, is it not?

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    6. Well since my post Suarez has quite rightly received a punishment although the result is open to debate. What I was trying to say was biting is hardly the worst thing that a player can do. Chiellini will be right as rain for his next match bar some impressive teeth marks which may or may not have faded. Is biting somehow worse than causing actual injury to a player, whether by reckless or deliberate actions?

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    7. Biting is unacceptable behaviour in any situation. You do that in the street, for the third time no less, you'd be charged with ABH at the very least.
      Sliding in with your studs up is more physically threatening (or not, if the biter is an hepatitis or carrier) but biting is strictly off limits.
      I truly hope part of his punishment was an insistence he gets psychological treatment. The ban should only be lifted when his doc declares him psychologically fit. Obv the doc should not be from Uruguay!

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  14. Latest prediction sure to be wrong: USA 2 - 1 Germany

    Dempsey opens the scoring off an incisive ball from straight from Klinsmann. Klose but no cigar as Miro scores to break the record but the 'Mericans win when Deuce pulls a Robbona (wittily whinging with pinpoint accuracy; one leg to stand on, the other to flick the ball nonchalantly into the net).

    Latest prediction sure to be right: England out in the group stage in 2018.

    I say make the youngsters watch the final in person so they know what they're missing. Maybe that'll motivate them. Probably not, but it can't be worse than how you've spent your development money so far.

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  15. Has Chiellini had a tetanus injection?

    I'd like to see an episode of Billy the Fish where he comes up against Suarez the Piranha.

    And that's all I have to say on this matter.

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  16. Opposition players of Uruguay should only really be worried when Suarez pulls out a bottle of marinade at the start of a match, when he then adds a bit of seasoning they can really claim to have been assalted.

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  17. He's out! A 9-match ban, and no football "of any kind" for four months.

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    1. 'Scuse me - "all football" - so no kickarounds with his kids, which, let's all admit, is safer for them.

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  18. Just 9 games and 4 months? Thank you FIFA. MEANS WE CAN STILL SELL HIM TO BARCA.

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    1. Maybe, but his value must have plumetted?

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  19. Cheers Robbo.

    Hello all, been really busy lately, what with drinking in the beer garden and stuff, oh yeah and the footy on everynight, good stuff.

    So the tombstone toothed caanibal has struck again?

    What surprises me most is the sense of shock, the guy has a seriously flawed charachter, he's an accident waiting to happen. He was okay (for the most) this season, because things pretty well went his way, but at he first sign of adversity, with his nation looking to crash out of the WC, he reverts to type, the bitey type. The guy seriously needs helped.

    I'm loving the media coverage, it's basically the same everywhere, except Uraguay. He needs to be punished, but no one seems to quite know how. The prize for over reaction has to go to Danny Mills. Sorry Danny, but I don't think throwing in him jail forever is quite in Fifas power.


    BREAKING NEWS.

    4 months and 9 Internationals
    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28023882

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  20. AH.

    I'm not sure it does.

    Talk that the ban also applies to "administrative activety"

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    1. That would be horrible if true. Time to slip Sepp some envelopes.

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    2. Phew.
      Daily Telegraph Football Correspondent Henry Winter on Twitter: "Fifa update on Suarez: "A transfer can happen this summer." So "Four-month ban on all football activity" does not preclude transfer."

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    3. Fifa just said that it doesn't prelude a transfer.

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    4. I forgot to hit publish on that last post. D'oh

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  21. http://www.espnfc.com/blog/men-in-blazers/95/post/1910916/boot-room-extra----uruguay-italy-drama

    Watch this, really - it's the "Men in Blazers" blog guys, and they came up with a couple of angles - Namely, what the bloody hell was up with Italy after that incident? First, just got on with things very quickly after, and second, no one seemed to go after Suarez. Previous Italy squads would have gone into histrionics and wasted loads of time, and certainly would have antagonized Suarez (a la what they did vs Zidane), if not retaliated. S'pose they were already down to 10 men, but still...

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  22. Of course, Uruguay can appeal and probably take it all the way the the Sports Arbitration Panel. I'm totally amazed that no-one took the law into their own hands and mashed the guy into a pulp (either Chelsea or Italy, I don't know about the other "incident"). Try that on a Sunday morning down Bog Lane Recreation Ground and you'd be leaving the field in a herse never mind an ambulance.

    Now waiting for "Suarez-finds-4-month-ban-hard-to-swallow" headlines.

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    1. exactly, it's times like this that I miss Billy Bremner, Nobby Stiles, Tommy Smith etc

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    2. Don't forget "Chopper" Harris

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  23. The BBC are listing all the PL matches he will miss, oblivious to the likelihood that he will be with Real or Barca by then. I can't wait to see the contract bearing all the signatories of Liverpool and Real/Barca and, against Luis's name, not a signature but a pair of dental indentations!

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    1. .... and then it will get really interesting.

      A story you can really sink your tee.......

      Nah, forget it.

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  25. Fav. headline (From Huff Post, I think): Chewy Luis and the Blues.

    Pepe's headbutt was a red and one game ban, Suarez bite is 4 months (which I think is too lenient). Things need putting into perspective. Butting, Biting, Spitting, eye poking (Mourinho!) all need long long bans. Whereas Roy Keane's "tackle" would have justified a lifetime ban. Or just a LIFE ban.
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  26. Shola Ameobi has gone further than England at this World Cup. Just saying.

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    1. So has Nabil Bentaleb.

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    2. They've also gone further than Spain, Portugal and Italy. It's been a fun WC, hasn't it?

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    3. Well when you're coached by Tim Sherwood all season, AH, reaching the second round of the World Cup finals is the least that you can expect.

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  27. The biggest question is whether Suarez will continue his pattern.

    First bite: 2 game suspensions, 7 goals in 13 appearances on the season.
    Second bite: returns from a 10-game suspension to score 31 goals in 33 appearances.
    Third bite: Four month suspension... 100 goals?

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    1. First bite was a 7 game suspension, btw, not 2.

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    2. Thanks for the correction.

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  28. Also, you Brits could learn a thing or two from us Americans about the sport you call your own. No, not cricket, the one with the World Cup you just exited (but we didn't... yet).

    https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/the-rio-report/usa-could-teach-england-thing-two-football-soccer-125117169.html

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    1. I'm just glad we weren't in your group. You wouldn't have needed a goalkeeping (goaltending?) fuck up to get a draw (tie) this time around.

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    2. Yeah, we prefer to give away winnable matches nowadays. Unwinnable matches are best left surrendered to the Germans.

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  29. As much as I want Gerrard (and Lampard) to retire, the thought of Rooney captaining the side makes me hope he will stay around a bit longer.

    I was hoping for longer than a four month ban for Suarez but it is better than I expected. When he plays again he should be forced to wear a mouth guard but that wont happen.

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  30. Jack Cork instead of Carrick and Clyne instead of Flanagan

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    1. Who instead of Carrick and who instead of who?

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    2. Clyne's a bright spark Blog, so good that he made my ffsl team until Southampton decided he was only good enough to come on for the last 20 minutes of every game. Lightning fast, bombs forward, great crosser, just er, cough cough, a slight question mark surrounding his defensive abilities but England don't worry about that at right-back.

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  31. Shaw to Man U and Lallana to Liverpool confirmed today. Also, a whole lot of Dutch guys to Southampton. The silver lining to England getting knocked out is that clubs transfer activity can get back on track.

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    1. But at least Man Utd aren't attempting to buy the title like those horrible teams Man City and Chelsea. They're only spending 30m on an attacking teenage fullback, and giving him a 180k a week contract because Chelsea have spent the same amount on a proven striker.

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  32. "Bite Me", said the Italian to the Uruguyan and guess what........
    Capybara's are rampant in central and south America..

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  33. "Barca still interested in Suarez..." well, there's your answer, Roger T - Liverpool can simultaneously take the high ground and get fat bags of cash for doing it. Funny old game...

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  34. New badge for a PL club. No name on it, so I've forgotten who they are. Some sort of tiger, I think. Detroit, maybe? Someone said it was ludicrous, but I thought they were in League Two.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27938400

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  35. Oh, and as for the Suarez ban... I'm okay with months of no game time, but keeping him from participating in training, attending matches, etc. is too harsh. He is troubled enough already. Completely removing him from his community (football, not Liverpool specifically) is likely to make it worse. He needs professional counseling and lots of support from his colleagues. Not defense from his colleagues, but active support to fix his issues. Being entirely excluded from what he loves most can't be good for him.

    That, and we can coat opposing defenders in Marmite (or something else he won't eat) until he learns to keep his mouth off of them. Works for thumb-sucking.

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  36. Remember a baseballer named Ty Cobb? Probably the sports figure closest to Luis Suarez we've got (you non-colonials, look him up - fascinatingly flawed, ugly character from the early 1900s). Tough childhood: his mother shot his father as a prowler - ironically, while the father was sneaking around outside the house to catch her with an imagined lover. The sport was life or death with him: he did whatever he could to win, inside or outside the rules. He regularly 'spiked' opponents (slid into base with his studs showing). He argued with opposing players, and even fans, until he went into the stands to pummel a crippled fan who was making remarks that he was of another ethnicity, let's just say. They were talking about banning him for life, and it was after this incident that he finally learned to hold his temper in check. I think this should sound a little familiar...

    There's only one person, ultimately, that can help Luis Suarez, and that is Luis Suarez. As long as he denies what he's done, there is no helping him, and the potential for him to do it again exists.

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    1. What Cobb did on the field, though dirty, was something one might allow could happen while playing, akin to studs-up tackles and surreptitious elbows in football. As far as I know, he never bit anyone during play, or did anything else to an opponent that would be completely out of place and outside the flow of the game (while playing).

      Not that he was a nice character. Those were the days, eh? Cheating was confined to the obvious (spiking on the field, throwing games off it) rather than shady stuff like PEDs. Sigh. What hath science wrought? And who fed it to (What's Up) Doc Suarez to turn him into Mr. (Raw) Hyde (Chew)?

      Ouch. That last one was almost as labored as an England World Cup match.

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    2. Indeed now, given Mr. Suarez's denials, he deserves everything he has been given, and probably more. A 'community' of clots who only care about how many goals he can knock in or silverware he can help them win will help not a whit.

      Poor little Suarez tripped and fell
      his overbite did flash
      That mean old FIFA took it wrong
      and stripped away his cash

      'Twas dim to think the protest from
      the man with Hand of God
      Could help, for Maradona was
      a cheating little sod

      So now for months we are denied
      the handballs off the line
      The slurs, the dives, the cards shown
      in exquisite pantomime

      For me, I hope 'Pool sell Luis,
      don't want to see his gob
      Near any tasty Toffee flesh,
      the cannibal nut-job!

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  37. Kenny Dalgleish, one of suarez's supporters. But has he researched the relative jurisdictions of the FA and FIFA? Another deluded (adopted) Scouser.
    Rastafairy

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  38. It made me laugh to hear that 888 was the first sponsorship deal Suarez lost. A company that makes money out of addiction taking a moral stand. Heheh...

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  39. Said he tripped and his face fell on Chiellini. Cemented his reputation as a biter when he nibbled Chiellini. Now he's cemented another reputation as a liar. Current Profile :
    Racist
    Diver
    Biter
    Liar
    Utter football genius

    I wonder how the scale balances them

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  40. It's fascinating to contemplate a Barca team with Suarez and Messi (I can smell the "Fire and Ice," or "Fuego y Hielo" t-shirts being printed). Plus, the abuse, in his own language, that will no doubt be heaped upon him by fans of the opposing team.

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  41. Is there anything in the rules prohibiting a keeper from mooning the taker to put him off before a penalty?

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    1. As long as he (or she) doesn't advance off the line...

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  42. Helena Costa left Clermont without taking charge of a single match. She claimed Clermont signed players without her consent. The club president said "She's a woman. They are capable of leading us to believe in certain things."

    Nope. No sexism in football. I'm sure the replacement coach, also a woman, will do just fine in that environment.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27984653
    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28072212

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  43. How long before Citeh, Chelski or Un**ed start knocking on Monaco's door with fistfuls of dollars to try to pries away James Rodriguez. I would suggest Arsenal try to beat them to his signature but we already have someone playing that position.

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    1. They only bought him last year for the best part of £40m, and as he's playing for Monaco he doesn't have to pay any tax on his earnings. So it really would take a lot of cash to get him. I suspect Liverpool would be more likely to go for him than the clubs you mentioned, as I feel they're going to make a lot of cash from a player sale this summer.

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  44. Seems cannibalism is popular in sport and not just by participants. An England fan bit a chunk of another England fan's ear during the England v Uruguay match. It will be interesting to see what penalty the biter is given, if he is ever caught.

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    1. I saw that story - see, everyone? Just like Mary Jane, violent video games, Dungeons and Dragons, and heavy metal music, Luis Suarez must be banned to protect our impressionable youth (even though this idiot appears to have been an adult).

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  45. Terry is now saying he 'lost his footing' and 'fell into' the wives of the Chelsea back 4.

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    1. I think I may have 'lost my footing' and 'fell into' my mate's pint a time or two. And I'll have to forgive the same having been done to me.

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  46. Colombian commentator on Rodriguez' goal yesterday. Excitable chap. Taka-taka gol gol!

    http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/06/james-rodriguez-scores-wondergoal-colombian-commentator-gets-a-bit-excited/

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  47. If Costa Rica win the World Cup, we'll be the only team to hold them to a tie which I reckon would make us joint Champions!

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    1. No, that would only work if Jamaica were...I'll go stand in the corner.

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  48. I think another ban is in order, and it's gotta be Arjen Robben. Not only does he dive faster than Jürgen Prochnow in Das Boot, but the farging icehole (unlike Suarez) admits doing it in a World Cup knockout round match! Surely this is also behavior we don't want to see from our youth, any more than biting the opposition. (This is a cue for someone to put up the YouTube link to Hugh Laurie's youth football training sketch from Fry & Laurie again)

    Oh, but he says he did NOT dive "for the one that was actually called a penalty." Like Suarez, conveniently forgetting the cameras and millions of fans watching around the globe and shouting, "Aa-OOO-gah! Aa-OOO-gah!"

    I'd like to see FIFA use the idiot's words against him, and at least throw him out of the next match. It will, of course, never happen. Failing that, dust off Robbo's anti-diving plan: Robben must dress as a frogman next match: rubber suit, tank, mask, flippers - and play the entire 90 minutes.

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    1. On a side note, and not being a conspiracy nutter, but Mexico HAVE had some strange officiating in this tournament, particularly phantom offsides in their first match (which they won, anyway).

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  49. Ah scousers, the lovable scamps.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-28078457

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  50. What a weaselly, cheating fucking arsehole is Arjen Robben. He goes down easier and more often than a Parisian whore on Bastille Day. Why do some of the top players, Robben and Ronaldo immediately spring to mind, need to cheat. Mind you when they are rewarded rather than punished for diving, why would they stop.

    If I had placed a bet on Brazil to win the WC I wouldn't be feeling too confident at the moment. They were awful against Chile. They got no favours from Howard Webb though. He seemed so determined not to be seen to favour Brazil that he ended up slightly favouring Chile. Brazil should have won in full time instead of going to extra-time then penalties. Hulk's goal should have stood, he did not bring the ball down with any part of his arm or shoulder, it came off his chest.

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  51. I reckon they should make a movie of Suarez' life. Should be a lot of bit parts.


    Jedi

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